Morgan West-Protector-Fleet Council
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by -Protector- on 2013/01/27 3:35:51 pm
Hey guys -- I'm about to make a post on the main STO forums for what to include in a 23rd century lockbox (this includes the movie era). My reasoning behind this is I feel this may be the only way to get endgame TOS gear. Be it kits, weapons (I won't suggest armor or shields as they weren't in TOS) and ships. Any ideas or suggestions are welcome below.
I'll round them up next sunday and post it the following monday. So, you have a week to contribute.
I'll also be editing this post with the suggestions that make the cut.
Thanks!
TOS LOCKBOX
Exeter retrofit: 10 console slots (4 eng, 2 sci, 4 tac), Uni Commander, Lt cmdr Tac, Lt Sci, Lt Eng, Uni Ens Can use all skins (including the TOS connie), if you own the exeter you can move the special console to it. (Basically a fleet exeter) Comes with 180 degree rapidfire photon torpedo. Klingons get the same as a D7 (yes I know there's a fleet version, how unfair is that?) that has the same console configuration as above. Romulans (if the faction exists by then) Get a Warbird also configured as above. Both the KDF and Rom items can cloak with a corresponding loss in shields and hull.
Cross-Faction Starship Console: Need thoughts here.
Mirror Universe Ship Pack: These will be the normal cheaper Exter/D7 ships updated to RA specs but not as high as the fleet versions.
TOS Duty Officers: Characters/races from TOS time. Will need race names like those from A piece of the Action, Miri's World, TOS Orions, TOS Gorn, TOS Klingons, and so on.
TOS Weapon Pack: Combines Phaser and Disruptor weaponry into one pack and depending on which faction opens it rewards Blue Phaser or Blue Disruptor weapons with properties of both but the Fed use Phaser Relays and the KDF use Disruptor Coils (I *THINK* the TV shows never really showed them firing the TOS Disruptors in space, if I'm wrong please show ma link so I can include it.) this will not make the Sprial Wave weapons obsolete since those have 4 qualities [Acc]x2 [Dmg]x2, and Weapon pack weapons have only 2. These are available for nearly all variants of Space and Ground weaponry. The Mark of weapon obtained from this pack is appropriate for your level, except for Vice Admirals and Lieutenant Generals, who have a small chance of gaining Mk XII items from this pack. All TOS weaponry is Very Rare (Purple) quality. The Ground weapons will use the Type 1-3 Fed models and the KDF will use the TOS Kling pistol and a new rifle will need to be designed.
Some Duty Officer Mini-Pack: This duty officer cadre pack is slightly smaller than the version previously seen on the C-Store, but contains the same selection of species, specializations and trait variants. Within this pack will be one (1) Green-or-better Duty Officers, and three (3) White-or-better Duty Officers.
Another Duty Officer Mini-Pack: This duty officer cadre pack is slightly smaller than the version previously seen on the C-Store, but contains the same selection of species, specializations and trait variants. Within this pack will be one (1) Green-or-better Duty Officers, and three (3) White-or-better Duty Officers.
In addition to one of the above, every Lock Box contains a random amount of Lobi Crystals [minimum of four (4)] which can be traded in for additional prizes. Right Click on your Lobi Crystal and choose "Use" to access this vendor, or find him on Drozana Station to browse his wares.
LOBI STORE
TOS Shuttle: Special Ability (Signal Flare from Galileo Seven?) 300 Lobi
Various Costumes from TOS and WOK: Uniforms and Off-Duty wear (Stuff from ST3 or 5 comes to mind, I need specific examples, like Kirk's Vest or Scotty's Vest.) Engineering Armor
Need a set idea weapon/two consoles.
Okay that's all for now. Please leave any suggestions below and I'll edit this post.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Stuart (speedofheat) on 2013/01/27 4:40:19 pm
Firstly, what an excellent idea!
Thinking about the show and the BOFF layout for the "Exeter"; Spock was a Commander (season 2+), Scotty was a Lt Commander, Sulu was a Lt, and Chekov was an ensign.
So that would give us:
Cmdr Science
Lt Cdr Engineer
Lt Tactical
Ens Universal (as he moved around from science to tactical etc....)
I would propose another Lt Universal (the guest star)
???
What about the Klingon ship from Enterprise as a lockbox ship for KDF?
and maybe Daedalus
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Daedalus_class
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by mark (James Bailey) on 2013/01/27 5:57:47 pm
I love your idea!
The Lobi store should sell the TOS tricorder and TOS communicator with beam me up emote. Also a sleeper ship like the Botany Bay that can be used like (as a) shuttle. There should also be a music feature that plays TOS music in the background when we are on the Conie interior. Do do do-do-do-do do do de do-do.. Do de do-do-do-do doo de dah-do-do
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Elric71 on 2013/01/27 6:26:53 pm
Great idea, West
I like Mark's idea for a music pack...Make it either a secondary prize in the Lock Box or a "tricorder" looking (Kinda like the thing that calls the Azura) item that you hold in your inventory. While it is in your inventory, it will add TOS music to the background. That might be a nightmare to program, I don't know, but it might be a way to get some more TOS music in the game.
I don't know that I'd add the bit about using the Connie skin in the original post, though. It could turn your post into a flame war about a T5 Connie really quick....I'd let someone else bring it first, cause you know they will
My 2 cents, anyway
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by ironhead1982 on 2013/01/27 7:11:46 pm
What I really want to see and would be happy to pay for is a pack with the TOS tricorder and communicator. I would also love to see a TOS EVA suit. As for TOS Klingons, instead of the TOS tricorder I would say the Klingon communicator (from Star Trek 3) and the Klingon TOS dagger (as a wearable item like the mirror enterprise dagger).
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Vexashen on 2013/01/27 8:51:54 pm
any klingon dagger in thier costumes would be badass
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by chrisroark on 2013/01/27 10:04:14 pm
Awesome so Awesome dream of dark winter dreams....
& I hate to say this - I hope it doesn't make me a bad seeming man no one wants around - but I don't hate the Exeter as is. I thought I would, I knew I should & just don't.
She's not Connie - no one's Connie - but to these born at the beginning eyes she's more Trek than anything else which followed onscreen or in game. In brief, she's a compromise I'm willing to make & a model I would take to end game.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Lomax6996 on 2013/01/27 10:36:11 pm
I agree, the Exeter is what the Connie upgrade SHOULD have looked like. I would jump on it, myself, as an endgame retrofit... something on a par with the Fleet K'Tinga Retrofit...
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by STO_Armsman on 2013/01/28 1:58:07 am
I'd honestly want a TOS Connie skin option (and I'd even pay Lobi for it; as part of thbe TOS Lockbox shheme); but yeah, I realize that CBS doesn't want the original Connie look on a T5 ship, thus the idea/suggestion would be a non-starter, so I'd grudgingly accept a T5 Exeter.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by TamReese on 2013/01/28 10:04:47 am
Great ideas from beginning to end. Love it.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Skonn on 2013/01/28 11:25:35 pm
Having net issues tonight once more... what else is new -_-
Launcher issues for the game, connection ones for Mumble. But enough complaining:
GREAT idea, West!
Some of the thoughts I had have already been said by others, but here's my 2 quatloos:
I'll follow cryptic's usual lockbox/lobi store scheme.
Usually we get 1-2 new uniforms per lockbox, excepting this last one. To that end, I suggest we keep it TOS (WOK has enough stuff still needed in-game to warrant a lockbox of its own, to be quite honest!)
There aren't many that aren't covered in-game yet, but I would think of a few:
Kirk's other green captains tunic, used in seasons 2-3.
TOS Mirror Universe captain's sleeveless shirt + wearable dagger
TOS Gorn skin + uniform
TOS Orion Vina outfit
TOS Andorian uniforms
Vulcan ritual outfits? Dresses?
Assorted female outifts?
And as Ray has suggested, the Tholian Web TOS EVA suit.
As far as a space weapon set:
Console: Easy! M5 Computer! Increased acc and power transfer
Weapons are trickier.. but I'm sure they could come up with something creative for both a phaser bank and a photon torp.
The only console I could think of for the Exeter to have (the 180 degree torp turret is not only a bit OP, it's also not really canon for TOS) is a "proximity phaser" one. Remember Balance of Terror? It could give a depth charge effect to sniff out pesky cloaked Klingons and Romulans!
Good idea suggesting the Exeter from the start, by the way.
The weapon packs could be retrofit phaser (and include Phaser types 1-3 for ground) They haven't really come up with variants within packs before, no point in asking them to start now. What we COULD ask for is a lobi upgrade to the TOS Disruptor.. they just did that for the Jem'Hadar pistol.
As far as exotic melee weapons, how about the Vulcan ahn'woon? It's the razor bolas they used in "Amok time"
I agree with Mark in having a Botany Bay-style freighter instead of a shuttle. Or how about the drone from Journey to Babel? Or Mudd's small J class ship? The Medusan ship from "Is there in truth no beauty"?
I think we definitely should ask for TOS themed kits. They could sell the emotes/beam-out effects separately, or include them. And both factions could get one! A science one for Feds with the visual displaying your Tricorder over your shoulder, a Tac one with a phaser belt! You could even do a medic themed one, and have McCoy's medical kit/Tricorder be the visual.... no ideas on the engineering one though, except having it fabricate TOS style photon mortars, as in Arena.
Actually, Ray, the Klingon communicator is a good idea, and could be the KDF equivalent kit... but I'd like to point out that Klingons had specific communicators, remember Errand of Mercy? We can leave the ST3 one for a WOK box.
That still leaves us with a few problems, mainly, the 800 lobi ship (Dreadnought class? You can't use the existing design, but I'm sure they can come up with something similar/along the same lines)
The biggest problem, to me, is what to offer the Klingons ship-wise. We already have a D7, and that's the only ship they used in TOS.... so maybe make it an alien ship? (they made a Gorn one for the remastered Arena, and the model is actually pretty cool)
Actually, thinking back, they DO mention a Klingon scout ship in "Friday's Child", and it's shown on-screen, albeit briefly and very blurrily. However, the remastered episode did away with it, and replaced it with a regular D7.
One last point: not to be facetious, but there WERE personal shields if you count the ones from TAS xD
This box would have been the perfect way to introduce the TOS Romulan BoP and uniforms.. but yeah, Cryptic continues to drag its ass.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Stuart (speedofheat) on 2013/01/29 2:18:05 am
Quote: | Console: Easy! M5 Computer! Increased acc and power transfer
Weapons are trickier.. |
love this, but I would reduce the crew to that of an escort when the console is in use.. and if feeling evil provide a an excelsior level chance of "antimatter spreading" yourself for a minute
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by DangerOneDanger on 2013/01/29 6:07:58 am
I would spend every dime I have on Master Keys for TOS Lockboxes that would offer a TOS Connie as a Tier 5 ship.
There, I said it. There is NO ONE who does not want one...
I would live in a refrigerator box (one that had internet access, mind you) and eat Ramen Noodles for the rest of my life...
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Morgan West-Protector-Fleet Council
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by -Protector- on 2013/01/29 1:35:12 pm
Skonn wrote: | One last point: not to be facetious, but there WERE personal shields if you count the ones from TAS xD |
Not to derail, or be nit-picky in my own thread but that was not a force field/personal deflector shield like we have in the game now, it was an environmental shield... Like the EVA suits.
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re: TOS Lockbox Suggestions
by Vexashen on 2013/01/29 8:09:13 pm
i could live without a tos connie. give me a defiant that stacks up with the bug and id be happy (yes i know it hits hard... but its made of paper)
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